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    Providers start offering Rocky Linux and other CentOS clones

    Daniel Nashed  20 August 2021 11:45:25

    There has been a lot of discussion about the Redhat move from CentOS 8 to CentOS 8 Stream.
    I personally don't see this as a good move to get a stable platform with more current software.

    CentOS Stream is what becomes the next CentOS dot release. So I really don't understand the big buzz around it.

    But there are two alternative projects that you would logically move to.
    And it might also depend on what your provider offers. Alma Linux and Rocky Linux are both good candidates.

    But you could also move to RHEL if you only need a small number of servers. Redhat provides free licenses for development.

    When you are coming from CentOS moving to Debian, Ubuntu or other distributions with a different packet manager, might not be a smart move.
    And even HCL lowered the bar for a best effort support environment, if you run into Nash!Com Domino on Linux start script issues with Ubuntu or Debian I will not help you.
    I can't take the time to install and deal with all the different environments and those platforms are rarely used for Domino and IMHO not a good idea for Domino native.

    Linux is not Linux and there are a lot of differences! Stay on Louisana highway unless you have very special requirements and know what you do!

    SLES and SUSE Leap are also good candidates for Domino. Actually everything we looked into as a based image for our Domino Docker project is a good candidate.
    Which also includes the Photon OS from VMware I blogged about recently.

    No and I would not use Oracle Linux for various reasons ..

    -- Daniel

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    1Henning Heinz  22.08.2021 12:42:55  Providers start offering Rocky Linux and other CentOS clones

    I have been using Debian since Domino 5. It just never disappointed me and I regret nothing.

    If Debian would not work anymore I probably would just use Windows Server.

    There once was a time when SUSE provided direct Domino support for their Enterprise distribution (they even ran some kind of Domino mailing list then).

    Although I have never been a subsciption customer for SUSE I did like the approach because you get a reason to pay for something which in many other cases is free (of charge).

    I do like HCL's best effort approach.

    2Daniel Nashed  22.08.2021 14:04:50  Providers start offering Rocky Linux and other CentOS clones

    Hi Henning,

    Debian will continue to work. And it has the same type of support statement for Domino V12 than other distributions of Linux.

    Ubuntu and Debian are just packaged completely different, which makes it hard for others who don't know it to support it.

    I looked into it and I had issues finding out which run-time libs are used. Even writing native C code it was difficult.

    The glibc was something I was easy to check. But the C++ lib was difficult.

    On other platforms there are commands to find out. This is just an example of a difference.

    For other platforms you see an explicit check for those versions. On Debian and Ubuntu you only get the message which versions you should make sure to run.

    The deeper you look into different Linux distributions -- and I looked into many over the last couple of years and currently -- the more you see that Linux is not just Linux. When you check my blog you see information about many different platforms and some difference. Like for locale handling etc.

    Switching to Windows if Debian ..That does not sound like a reasonable choice.

    -- Daniel

    3Henning Heinz  24.08.2021 11:35:48  Providers start offering Rocky Linux and other CentOS clones

    Oh, I have been checking your blog for many years (great stuff) and my comment about switching to Windows if .. was more of a joke.

    Even run some Hetzer machines too, excellent value for the money.

    I am a bit concerned that Red Hat is moving a bit more into the direction of Oracle.



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